Days two-five: Working at DONG Energy

Wow this is a cool company and a cool country. Its been a really exciting couple of days full of walking and work and waking up to the blazing sun at 3am.

Quick hits:

  • there is no obvious pecking order at work
  • everyone shares tables and desks (and they’re the cool desks that have motors so you can stand and work if you don’t want to sit)
  • everyone eats together and lunch is free
  • no one knows what a sorority is and it is very hard to explain
  • the architecture at this company is insanely beautiful
  • tattoos are everywhere
  • full service coffee machines are all over the office
  • people wear Birkenstocks to work
  • not learning the metric system from birth is so inconvenient for the rest of the world



On Sunday I was lucky enough to spend the day getting to know my coworkers at DONG Energy on the company’s dime. The gardens are located right next to my hotel and they are absolutely adorable. Tivoli is a mini, more clean, more charming, Disneyland. It makes perfect sense that Tivoli was the main park that walt disney drew inspiration from to create Disneyland.


The rides were nothing short of super lame and extremely cute. We sat down for a lunch that was too pretty to eat. Strawberries are a big deal here in the summer and apart from root vegetables, they are one of the very few kinds of produce that can grow here.


On Monday one of my coworkers was nice enough to come and pick me up on his way to the office so I would know the way. The Gentofte office of DONG is the main building they have in copenhagen and it houses the CEO and from what I can tell most of the development. The building is almost a greenhouse, with trees, glass ceilings, small pools everywhere. The Viriam office is less pretty, still modern and illuminated by natural light. This morning I got a little lost on my way to work and had to spend an hour on the metro correcting my error. Although the office is in Viram, you have to take the Jæsborg exit to get there, even though there is a train exit that SAYS VIRIAM. Whatever, I made it to work, I just took a little scenic detour.


What struck me more than the architecture was the nature of the office space itself. No one, not even the CEO, has an office. Everyone sits at tables in an open room. The desks are assigned but there are no walls, no clear partitions. The team lead poked fun at the American way of having walls everywhere in the office. Honestly, he’s not wrong.


When there is such an open structure like this, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to tell who is in charge of who. Who is the boss? What is the pecking order? I AM AN AMERICAN. I NEED TO KNOW WHO TO BE AFRAID OF. Honestly though, it is very admirable the way in which everyone is given equal respect, and I much prefer this open style of working. I know who hired me, obviously, and I know she is very busy, so I assume she is in a relatively high position within the company. Other than my boss, however, I have no idea who my immediate boss is, or what levels of authority everyone is on. I am sure the longer I work here I will have a better understanding, but as of right now I am enjoying thinking everyone is important because everyone in this world really is important, regardless of title or pay.


everyone gets a desk with a motor so you can stand up and type!! the coolest!

My work here is currently very vague. Because I am an “external consultant” and my internship is unpaid, its the immediate supervisor that hired me that has the ability to assign me work. My boss is interested in hearing a fresh perspective, and knows my interests in clean energy coupled with GIS, but has yet to decide what she wants me to be doing. I have a pretty clear list of objectives for what I hope to gain from this internship and until I have a specific task I am getting an education on how the company works, what kind of technology is being used in the generation and distribution of clean energy, and how GIS is used to tackle some of the issues the company faces. From what I have learned, I am thoroughly impressed.

An issue I have encountered here is work dress. People are wearing Birkenstocks and shorts. BIRKENSTOCKS. Being the naive and ever prepared boy scout I brought heeled work shoes, slacks, blouses, and sweaters all coordinated from ann taylor. Little did I know I would be on par with the actual business men of the company. Programmers and scientists here wear t-shirts and jeans. Although the first two days were a little embarrassing, and my blisters are horrific, I just feel the worst for my generous mother, who bought all of these nice sweaters and blouses from ann taylor that weren’t really necessary. If anything I can dress down the blouses with jeans. The heels will go into my suitcase and never return.


before i showed up to the office and looked like a total DOINKER

After work this Monday and Tuesday I have walked the city. If I wasn’t thoroughly stretching each night I would have terrible shin splints. As a matter of fact DONG Energy is having a stretching campaign going on right now, and in general is obsessed with safety, health, and well being of their employees. I, an undergraduate intern, get complete health care out here.


we get in trouble if we don’t hold onto the handrails… 



I am provided breakfast at the hotel and work (yay) They really like their cheese and dairy here. Half the time they just put a hunk of cheese onto a piece on untoasted bread. My hotel has oranges and they are actually really good so that is a major treat. I love rye bread so thats an added bonus because I’m pretty sure its the national source of carbs here.

DONG Energy provides lunch and breakfast to all of their employees (yay) It is gourmet buffet. I am very overwhelmed. This is the only opportunity I have all day to get some serious veggie intake so I’m trying not to screw up my selections. Also I am eating with respectable adults and I don’t want to embarrass myself too seriously before the end of my first week.

There are these Scandinavian dry cracker things that look like prison food. They have no flavor. They explode into a violent crumb catastrophe after the second bite. They might cause death if not consumed with emergency liquid lubrication. I love them and will be eating at least one a day.

Dinner kinda sucks honestly. I am not a full time employee so I cannot take any of the cafeteria food home (a popular option) and my hotel does not have a kitchen, so I am either going to waste all my money on food or have to get creative. I have a coworker that might be willing to do some sneaking for me, but he’s a real adult with real responsibilities so I might befriend someone younger who respect less to do the dirty work. I could live on ramen dinners, but I don’t want to do that to my body. I could also eat a lot of street hot dogs, but again, I don’t want to do that to my body. It is a constantly evolving situation that I will keep you updated on.

More pics:



Hope you have a fantastic week! Hav en god uge!

Day One: Orstedparken, Stroget, Christiansborg Slot, and Hannah!

I’ve been here less than 48 hours and I am falling into the ultimate abroad girl cliche but I don’t care. I am proud to say I’m already in love with this city. In an attempt to not sound like  broken record the entire time I’m here, I’ll just say that everything in this city is beautiful.

Heres the quick hits:

  • I have read that this city is walkable and after a day here I can confirm this statement.
  • The bike culture here is awesome (not too different from IV)
  • I was identified in the Copenhagen airport as my fathers daughter because one of his co workers saw my NASA jacket and thought “thats Erik Hoel’s kid” (listen to “My Old Man” by Mac Demarco)
  • I am living in a hotel for three weeks before the company puts me in a more permanent living situation for two more months and I am in the SMACK DAB MIDDLE of the city
  • Everyone initially speaks to me in Danish
  • Saturdays are for the loud aggressive drunk German boys
  • Trendy “New American” style burger restaurants are everywhere (maybe I didn’t need to slam so much Habit before I left)
  • 1 dollar is like 6.5 krone
  • hot dogs are like 4 US dollars
  • Danish is not an intuitive language. (I don’t know what I was expecting)
  • ABBA, the BeeGees, the Bengals, and Blondie are all big here. (I am not opposed)
  • This is not an easy place to be lactose intolerant
  • Public urination is a problem here. Not hard to believe considering I have only seen one public bathroom after walking around for an entire day
  • Basic colors and sneakers are the style here. I have seen almost no accessories other than sunglasses. (did someone make this country for me?)
  • It is bright from 4am-11pm (yikes)
  • Weather here is great (its going to be sunny and 75 today)
  • Hans Christian Anderson is a big deal here.


Saturday 6-17-17:

Saturday morning I was ready to go do some adventuring so I set out to the closest park to me, Orstedparken.DSC_0131.jpgDSC_0051.jpgDSC_0090.jpgDSC_0045.jpgDSC_0127.jpgDSC_0017.jpgDSC_0085.jpg

I managed to connect with another ADPi from Kansas over Facebook and she invited me to spend the day with her exploring and wandering around the city center shopping. I am so thankful I was able to meet her. Hannah had an absolutely inspiring story and amazing attitude. She is only here till Wednesday and I hopefully will be accompanying her to get a tattoo Tuesday night.



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Postcard worthy photo around every corner

We walked all around, one of the stops was Christiansborg Slot. Apparently this is a palace (makes sense) From the top we were able to see some amazing views of the city.




check out the cruise ships and wind farms on the ocean!



Christiansborg Palace



We both got hot dogs for lunch (yay hot dogs)


We got dinner at the downtown Hostel and it was really affordable and delicious


We shared some pastries and I cant remember the names of them for the life of me but the white one was like a fancy flakey layered strawberry poptart

Many more adventures to come today! Can’t wait 🙂

Danish phrase of the day:

Undskyld mig (On’skil ma’ee) (excuse me) (also isn’t this language the worst?)


On the flight to Copenhagen

Thursday or Friday sometime between June 15th and 16th

I am sitting on an airbus a380 and most everyone is sleeping or watching a movie. My mouth vaguely tastes like skittles.

I am currently on route to Heathrow, then to my summer internship in Copenhagen Denmark,

“The internship will cover education within the areas:

Wind Farm construction and Operation

Distribution Grid Operation

IT support of related processes, especially Geographical Information Systems (GIS).”

Was the exact quote in my bosses formal invitation letter (which I found particularly adorable)

My first movie viewing of this journey was Moana, which in the most cliché way proved to me that I can do this (I can do ANYTHING actually) Its been months now that I have been telling people about this job and now its actually happening. I am flying over some lame part of Canada, I have a passport and documentation and a plug adapter and a hair dryer that folds in half and can run on euro voltage (shoot-out mom!!)

Before I even land in Denmark, there are a lot of people I have to thank for even helping to get me here.

IMG_7835.JPGFirst and foremost, my parents. My mom was the one crazy enough to suggest I apply with this company in the first place, and without her idea there is actually zero chance I would be here right now. My father was kind enough to put in a good word for me, and although he downplays it, I am also certain I would not be here without his word. Although we have never had the closest relationship, I know my parents love me more than anything on this freaking earth, and I cant believe they have dealt with me in all of my horrifically selfish and terrible times. I am so thankful that they believe in me, and I haven’t felt so appreciated ever in my life as I have in the past month. *now crying on this plane* There will never be an appropriate way to thank them for all they have given me. This and everything I have ever done, had, or seen was because of them.

Second, all of my amazing friends that have talked me through this massive life change. I cant start naming people, because the list would be egregiously long and I might forget someone and feel like human garbage. Even if what we were talking about was the power of a bathrobe, mortifying freshman year stories, or what we aspire to be like as parents, they all meant something special to me, and without the moral support I have received in the past 10 weeks of my life I would be on this plane with two sty’s from all the stress (I only have one right now)

IMG_9238.JPG.jpegThird, my education, obviously. I have had the insane honor of being able to work with some of the smartest minds in the world of oceanography. Without UCSB, who even knows if i would have the skills to be qualified for this internship. I have done far too many group projects, but I have learned a lot about working on a team. I ended up actually becoming good friends during the nightmarish work we shared the burden of (shutout GIS girls love ya’ll) Also, without knowing it, my professors have pushed me to attempt so much more than I though I was capable of.IMG_7794.jpg

Fourth, my brother, Grant Hoel. I love him so stinking much I would almost consider moving to Ohio to live near him. *almost* There is no one in this world that has listened to as much pointless blabber coming from my mouth, even while I am chewing during most conversations we have had. I am so freaking stoked that he’s going to be with my for three months this summer wandering around Europe. I will surely embarrass him and he will still love me just as much at the end of the day! He is the best ever. That’s all I gotta say about that.IMG_6905.JPG

Fifth, our beautiful mother earth. If she didn’t exists we wouldn’t have wind and we wouldn’t be able to make wind farms in the middle of the Baltic sea so I wouldn’t have an internship. So I’m v thankful for that.

DSC_0485.jpgSO, with all that said, I will be posting my travel things on my blog under the tag “travel” because I just don’t need to make another new blog. Make sure to check me out in insta @paigehoel Hopefully those pics will be quality and aesthetically pleasing.

I am so looking forward to sharing all of my adventures with you whoever you may be!!

Hej Hej!

How I’ve somehow acquired internships in college

I have to preface this post saying I am not, nor do I pretend to be, a STEM-superhero-guru type that has privileged knowledge or is trained in job searching.

IMG_7348.jpgI am, however, a little craftier than the average bear because my GPA is not very competitive, and the baseline tips they give college students isn’t what helped me personally.

Fortunately, in my college experience I have been blessed with some awesome opportunities to participate in research and some pretty cool internships. Many of my friends have asked how I ran into these jobs and how to even know where to look.

DSC_0695.jpgSo, although I am 21 years old and probably don’t know what I’m talking about, here is how I gained research experience in my first three years of college:

  • Talk to professors you’re interested in. Sophomore year I took an atmospheric-oceanic interaction class and genuinely enjoyed the stories and personal input my professor had to give on the subjects. I went into office hours and pestered him about how he decided to get into the field, his career path, his advice for a young mind, etc. Although he didn’t have any available research positions, he was able to recommend me to talk to a number of other faculty that shared similar interests. Since then I have done a similar thing for every class I have been extremely interested in. Even if it dosen’t amount to anything in the short term, establishing good relationships with faculty can lead to jobs in the long run, letters of rec, and a great resource for discussing future career or graduate school plans.
  • Befriend grad students. Grad students are awesome! They are not very far from where you are right now and can be a little bit more real with you than a professor can. Similar to professors, they know who to recommend you speak to. What a grad student can provide that a professor cannot, however, is time. Grad students are busy, but they more often than professors sit down and chat about whatever is on your mind.  They ALSO can provide a lot of help with your resume and writing a cover letter.
  • Send some emails. One day my sophomore year I read through all the bio’s of the graduate students in my schools graduate environmental science program. I eagerly emailed about 20 of them (no joke) explaining how old I was, what they were doing that I had interest in, and my interest in gaining research experience or an internship. Maybe five emailed me back, but of those five, two genuinely appreciated my enthusiasm, and from then on they were my allies. Currently, I am working on a senior thesis that was almost entirely the idea of a grad student I befriended my sophomore year. She met with me a few times during the year, and as she got to know my interests better, she suggested I model an equation established in a previous paper she had written.
  • Don’t be a stranger. When you have a good conversation with a professor or grad student, remember to at least write down your name, email, and interests on a post it and if it seems appropriate, hand it to them when you leave. OR you can send a follow up email within the next day or so thanking them for their time and mentioning your contact info in case any opportunities arise. Anytime you see someone you have received guidance from around campus, give them a wave or have a little conversation if you have the time. Don’t be weird, even if you think they don’t remember you, they probably do.
  • Use your department advisors. More often than not, department advisors have a pretty good idea of what is going on with large internship offers, professors looking for undergraduate help, etc. Many majors offer an independent research class- talk to your advisor about how it works and what previous students have done in the past.
  • Check your email. Most departments and majors at UCSB have a mass email list and this is frequented with weekly research opportunities. If you get those use them. This tip is almost too obvious to mention
  • Use connections. Major key. Although it may seem unfair, its true that connections have a lot of weight when you’re looking for a job, no matter the field. My mom mentioned to me that my dad had made software for a clean energy company in Denmark and that I would be interested in their work. Six months later I am about to leave for Copenhagen to work for that very company! Even if what you have connections for might not be explicitly what you’re interested in, something is better than nothing, and I believe you learn a lot from any job. Go for it!
  • Look at small companies. This may be more stem applicable, but a lot of small startups are always looking for interns. It may take an intense amount of google-ing, but you may find some better opportunities than just searching “internships near me”
  • Consider international opportunities. Obviously, this tip requires a little more desire for adventure. If you are set on gaining a lot of experience, however, going abroad to work is an option not many people consider. It also shows a lot of initiative if you are willing to spend a summer in another country just to work.


IMG_6874.jpgA couple final notes- Don’t worry about your GPA. Obviously try to have the best GPA possible, but don’t let that discourage you from real hands on experience! You can do it!! My GPA is terrible if that makes you feel any better! Learn how to shake a hand, and say proper pleases and thank you’s. Finally, don’t be discouraged if people don’t reply or show any mutual enthusiasm. Professors are busy, grad students are too. It takes a lot of reaching out to find opportunities but the search in and of itself is a great learning opportunity.

Good luck in your academic endeavors!

Is it physically possible to enjoy mornings in college

Call it genetics, luck, or a divine gift, I, Paige Hoel, am now and always have been a morning person.

I am also 21 and in a sorority, two demographics that are majority morning opposed unless brunch is involved.

I get asked maybe 5 times a week how I am able to be a morning person, what my trick is, why I don’t sleep in, and my legitimate answer is that I’m in love with mornings. I love going for a run and seeing a completely empty college campus. I love exchanging smiles and greetings with gardeners and seeing the dewey grass. I love all of it, maybe because I feel as if it is a personal gift that a very small amount of people are able to see the way I do.


Beautiful bed that you will not hop back into!

Regardless, aside from being a hopeless romantic of the untouched morning world, I do have a couple pointers that help on the mornings that I am not so enthusiastic.

  1. Don’t snooze your alarm. Don’t tease your poor body like that. I’m sorry, I know a lot of people live by this, but go cold turkey. If you know you need to wake up at 6:30 set your alarm at 6:30.
  2. Sit up in your bed, grab your phone, chug some water. I know you love your cocoon. Try easing out of it. I’m no doctor but I’m pretty sure water helps move things around?? Think of it as oiling up your organs maybe?? Idk just do it I promise it’ll help. I also cruise through insta, facebook, emails, for about 10 minutes. Something will either motivate me to get out of bed, or workout, or will look super delicious to eat. Just think- this person in this picture could be YOU but the first step is getting out of bed.
  3. Go to the bathroom, wash your face. Splash water like those Neutrogena commercials. Make a mess. Wink at yourself in the mirror and feel cute. You’re a morning girl (or guy or gender non conforming individual) now! Werk ittt!
  4. Make your bed. Make it look beautiful, so beautiful that if you were to crawl back in and mess it up it would be a tragedy.
  5. Move your body. This is when I go to the gym. I believe everyone has an ideal time of day to exercise, and thankfully for myself thats 6:30am. If you are not in this boat, just stretch it out a little. A little bit of lunges never hurt anyone (not a verified fact)
  6. Get dressed, shower if you’re into that. I am a morning shower-er as well. Forget about being productive if you’re wearing your PJ’s till 11am (again not a verified fact)
  7. Eat a delicious breakfast. You are now dressed, stretched, hydrated, and eating the most important meal of the day. Look at you!!! Winner! I usually go for two eggs and some toast. Possibly berries if available. Coffee always. Insert at least one glass of water here.
  8. WAKE UP AT THE SAME(ish) TIME EVERY DAY. Again, not a doctor, but I know your body is happier when its in a routine. Try easing yourself into your ideal wake up time over the course of a couple weeks and stick to it. Waking up at 7 one day and 12 the next is a NO GO.

Flowers, sunshine, coffee, whats not to like?

And those are my tips for not hating mornings! Go you! I have some other additional tips if you are feeling like an overachiever:

  • Go outside. Get that fresh air! If you live in a cold/ miserable place I am so sorry, I have no help for you.
  • Lay out your clothes the night before. Pretend you’re in 2nd grade and tomorrow is picture day.
  • Open your blinds asap OR set a timer on your lights so that they turn on when you wake up. Even I have a hard time waking up when its pitch black so try to and make it easier on yourself
  • Turn on the radio. Get woke, literally. Listen to some NPR and feel like a real adult.
  • Do some planning! Grab any of my free printables or go overboard and buy some of them off my etsy.

Get ur plan on!

My final tips would be to work your way into a morning routine. Rome wasn’t built in a day! Try maybe 4 tips and work your way up to all of them, or ease into your ideal wake up time by 30 min a week.


My high school weekend morning setup

I also want to say that not all of us are made to be morning people (again this statement is not purposefully backed up by any science whatsoever) I work more efficiently in the morning and after 9pm my brain turns to mush and I just don’t fight it anymore. If you’d rather stay up late doing homework don’t torture yourself by waking up at 6 just to feel productive. Also, if you’re in college, there realistically wont be many more times in your life where you can get away with staying up till 2am and waking up at 10am so if thats what you like I would savor it while you still can.

Have a great morning, afternoon, or night!


Quality not quantity: How I make the most of my free time in college

Every quarter i find myself saying “this is the busiest quarter I have ever had”

Is this quarter an exception? No. This is the busiest quarter I have ever had. My free time is limited and very cherished. Once I am free, its easy to stress and think “oh my god this is my only time to have fun. I HAVE TO HAVE FUN” This, however is not the mentality you want to have when it comes to having fun.

It took me a long time to figure out how to make the most of my time in college, and I find it to be something I am constantly improving. When it comes to finding activities in my free time, I keep a few things in mind:

IMG_7462.jpgWill I remember this in a year?

  • This Saturday I had the pleasure of joining one of my best friends in the science march in downtown Santa Barbara. We studied in the morning, marched for an hour, got lunch, and came back to do some more studying. I also went to the womens march in Oakland in January. Both are experiences I will never forget!G0011015.JPG
  • Is there something that I can only do in this season?
    • A popular summer activity in Isla Vista is floating on the ocean in a 10 person raft. I got a chance to go this Friday afternoon for three hours. We laughed, relaxed, and watched the surfers go by. Best study break of all time
    • I try to go the pumpkin patch once a year. Yes it is tacky, yes it is a photo op, but with the right people it is a lot of fun, and something that really puts you in the seasonIMG_6786.jpg
  • What did I want to do going into college? Have I done all those things?
    • Almost everyone has kayaking on their UCSB bucket list and it only costs about $15 to get out there and do it
    • Every campus has some cool spots, whether its a rooftop, awesome hidden library, or fun gym. Bring your adventurous friends and some food and find it! Be wary of cameras and cops, not worth it to get arrested.IMG_3720.jpg
  • Can I get out and experience the town I’m in? Locals only?
    • A lot of towns have Facebook pages for residents. I would join one of those or something like an event forum. College kids don’t hear about everything going on and can really get stuck in a bubble. I joined a Facebook page for Santa Barbara events and I have heard about a lot of things I wouldn’t have otherwise.
    • Make friends or establish connections with people that aren’t in college. Ask them what they do on the weekends! This might sound awkward but theres nothing wrong with asking. I used to work retail and my manager was always happy to recommend food and other things to do on the weekend for me!
    • You’re only in college once, and you might only be in the city your college is in once! If you have FOMO for your college bubble, it might surprise you to see how fun it is to get out on the actual town and see how many memories you can make outside of campusDSC_0308.jpg
  • Does this involve any sort of physical activity?
    • Even if its not super strenuous, if you’re working out in any way it can give a serious feeling of accomplishment. And what better than tackling a physical feat with your best friends?
    • You will sleep better after working out (I am not a doctor so I am speaking 100% from personal experience)DSC_1068.JPG
  • Is this activity outside?
    • Vitamin D is your friend
    • This does not really apply to all my friends in cold schools (sorry but you did this to yourself)

I think the most important lesson I have learned about having quality free time and escaping from my studies is quality of quantity. Even if I only have three free hours on a Friday, I can make that time quality and go on a little adventure (like floating or watching the sunset on the roof with friends) or watch netflix for an hour or so in the morning and an hour or so at night.

I’ve also found that I study more efficiently when I take quality breaks (like two hours surfing or a sunset walk) or I have something to look forward to (like date party or a trip to the county fair) I starved myself of fun free time my freshman year and I still think that caused me to have worse grades.

Get out there, have fun, and embrace your free time!

Paige Post: Camping is the greatest ever

Do you like the outdoors? Do you like great conversations? Are you pro hot dog?


DSC_0899This weekend I had the pleasure of sharing a camping trip with the two best pals a girl could have. We ate lots of hot dogs, hiked, admired mama oash, petted lots of dogs, and let go of social media for one glorious day.

My parents were always large supporters of camping, more specifically beach camping. And boy am I thankful they were. My brother and I sat in the back of our VW camper as we drove from beach to beach every summer. We would camp on the cliff, eat hot dogs and body surf to our hearts content.

What I learned from all of those trips is that camping dosen’t have to be expensive or hard to be successful. It is what you make of it. Camping allows you to completely remove yourself from being productive. Its an excuse to loose focus in the best way. I loved all the camping trips we had when I was a kid, and I hope to do the same for my children.

Now an adult (not really) I’ve made it a personal goal of mine to go camping with friends as much as humanly possible.

So this easter weekend when everyone in our college town seemed to be at home or coachella, we headed for Gaviota.

DSC_0851.jpgIMG_0068.jpgDSC_0735.jpgDSC_0803.jpgDSC_0868.jpgDSC_0760.jpgDSC_0790.jpgThe weather was so beautiful.

After we hiked, we made it to El Capitan where I realized I had accidentally booked us a campsite for the wrong night. By some beautiful stroke of luck, we ended up back in Gaviota where there was one remaining campsite. We took it, parked our car, and headed for the beach.

DSC_0891.jpgDinner was a traditional affair of hot dogs and a special easter version of smores with peeps. We watched the sunset and sat by the fire in content. DSC_0959.jpgDSC_1004.jpg

It was a spectacular trip, and I would have rather shared it with any other ladies!DSC_0920.jpgDSC_0941.jpg